with Chris Hargrove

A new podcast series from Divine Lineage Center on the sacredness of dying. Chris Hargrove in conversation with Monika of Penukonda explores the process of being present to the extraordinary play of life and death as a hospice worker and healer for those preparing to exit.



Grief is an inescapable human experience. Just like death.  

I’m of the mind that we have the emotional experience of grief because it allows for so much to be able to happen. It is…it can be, that transformative portal. But not when we handle it too much…We have to give it space. I’ve seen that move in lots of different ways.  

If we just allow for that energy to enter and we hold a vibration of stillness in its presence then really beautiful things can happen and individuals can have a truly transformative experience…We’ve all heard these stories of individuals who have near-death experiences and they left their bodies or had some experience of their bodies from outside themselves…

Everything in their life changes from that point on…we don’t have to have a near-death experience to be privy to that. We do not. Every time death moves into our circle we have that opportunity. We can have the same experience without being clinically dead…we can touch that and the grieving can touch that.


Listen to "Supporting Family Members Through the Death of a Loved One"


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Chris Hargrove

is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Sai Shakti Healer in private practice at Four Flames Healing in Asheville, NC. Chris has worked in behavioral health for over 20 years and spent 11 years in Hospice at the bedside where he learned first hand the blessings of being present to the dying and their loved ones. These lessons are enriched by nine years of direct study with Sri Kaleshwar and his revelations about the true mechanisms of healing grief, loss, and heartbreak Chris is available for in-person and remote Sai Shakti Healing sessions and counseling. To learn more please visit:



Monika of Penukonda

is a spiritual teacher, master healer, and sacred feminist. Author of a modern rendering of the "Sri Sai Satcharitra", "The Wonderful Life and Teachings of Shirdi Sai Baba” and “Kaleshwar"; editor of “The Real Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ” and "Shirdi Sai Baba, The Universal Master."

The siddha master Sri Kaleshwar said of her, “Monika belongs to the Divine Mother feet. She is a Divine Ma on the planet. She’ll walk and give a lot of wisdom and clarity to bloom wisdom. This lady will bless millions of people on the planet. She’s going to do it.”

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