with Chris Hargrove

A new podcast series from Divine Lineage Center on the sacredness of dying. Chris Hargrove in conversation with Monika of Penukonda explores the process of being present to the extraordinary play of life and death as a hospice worker and healer for those preparing to exit.



Chris: We’re so affixed to the notion of romantic love, that comes with its attendant problems…that we don’t even know how to hold loving kindness for all beings..but to be in a field (working with the dying) where one or two individuals are really experiencing that, and really in that energy, its really something. And then the reflection that you get back if you’ve been a part of that…You get to experience that field of love that they’re in, and they’re sharing it with you. They’re thanking you with that love for what you did. And what did you do? You showed up. You walked loved beside them, you opened your heart, you didn’t judge, you didn’t push, you were quiet, a lot.

You know, we are uncomfortable in this culture with silence. Silence is very healing. You won’t ever know that until you try it. You can’t learn about that by reading it in a book. You have to experience it. And the silence that someone who is really reaching in their own spiritual journey, the type of silence which that individual soul can cultivate in that space, again, is medicine. It is the deepest medicine in that space. Much more powerful than whatever is being pumped into their veins or through their bodies. And we’re all capable of that. But we have to turn towards, not away.  

Monika: And just to know, that (silence) is the greatest healer. Because we get caught up thinking we need to do something to fix something. And actually, the more silent we can become the greater effect that we can have. And what you described there…that was really gratitude.….That’s soul gratitude. And you can’t describe that, how it affects you when you receive it. It's not a compliment. Its an energetic light from that soul to you.



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Chris Hargrove

is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Sai Shakti Healer in private practice at Four Flames Healing in Asheville, NC. Chris has worked in behavioral health for over 20 years and spent 11 years in Hospice at the bedside where he learned first hand the blessings of being present to the dying and their loved ones. These lessons are enriched by nine years of direct study with Sri Kaleshwar and his revelations about the true mechanisms of healing grief, loss, and heartbreak Chris is available for in-person and remote Sai Shakti Healing sessions and counseling. To learn more please visit:



Monika of Penukonda

is a spiritual teacher, master healer, and sacred feminist. Author of a modern rendering of the "Sri Sai Satcharitra", "The Wonderful Life and Teachings of Shirdi Sai Baba” and “Kaleshwar"; editor of “The Real Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ” and "Shirdi Sai Baba, The Universal Master."

The siddha master Sri Kaleshwar said of her, “Monika belongs to the Divine Mother feet. She is a Divine Ma on the planet. She’ll walk and give a lot of wisdom and clarity to bloom wisdom. This lady will bless millions of people on the planet. She’s going to do it.”







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  1. Thank you Chris and Monika. God Bless You.

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